That’s gotta hurt
Why wounding, maiming,
and torturing your characters is good
Mike Shepherd Moscoe, Rory Miller, Burt Kemper, Adrian
Phoenix
Orycon 34 – 2012
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It’s about realism in your characters. If they
don’t get injured or heal too quickly, it’s not realistic.
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MM:
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Jack Devitt kills between 10 and 50 characters
per book
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Mike kills anywhere between 100 and 1000
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John Henry kills a 1000 and up
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It’s important that it makes sense, that it
contributes to the storyline
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AP:
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Author of two urban fantasy series
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Even though they are powerful characters, they
are still emotionally and physically tortured and suffer.
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RM:
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Non-fiction writer
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(works for police department?)
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BK:
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Engineer. Professionally, done force protection
work, ballistics, etc. Works in the military.
o
Long term emotional, physical and spiritual
damage is done to people, and that stays with them.
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RM:
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I tend to throw most books against the wall.
o
There’s almost no way to engage in violence that
is consequence free.
o
Legs, eyes, ears, fingers, hands: they
eventually no longer work the same.
o
In fiction, there is a trope that characters
emerge unscathed and unscarred.
o
The patterns for warriors: they tend to keep
doing what they do until they die or drink themselves to death.
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MM:
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Psychologically, we’re not permitted to kill
humans.
o
Until your not psychologically normal.
o
There’s a small fraction that are intelligently
capable of distinguish between the times when it is permitted to kill and not
kill.
o
The vast majority of us don’t have the
programming to do that.
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RM:
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Some people who go out and kill professionally,
they still have strong family relationships.
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BK:
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Women have different adrenaline cycles than men.
·
RM: Male and females have different stress
response:
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Men get angry quicker and let go of it quicker
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Woman get angry slower (still thinking logically
longer), but stay angry or upset later. Crying is a way to release stress.
o
Because of this, women can be trained to fight
cold. They can think, plan, aim better, because they are not yet in a stress
response.
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BK:
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If you’re ambushed and you spend time thinking,
you’re going to be dead.
o
If you respond automatically, because your
training is instinctive, your chances
are improved. (And specifically, it’s better to turn into an ambush.)
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MM:
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The characters that’s just been introduced – if
they die, it’s somewhat meaningless.
o
The character that’s lived through three books,
that they care about, and who has to make a choice between his life and his
wifes, and then dies… that’s gut wrenching.
o
As a writer, you have to make characters that
you care about die: it’s got to be serious.
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BK:
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Sometimes you have to roll the die and decide
what characters to kill. Otherwise, as a writer, you’ll keep protecting them.
Roll a die to choose who to kill. Let it reflect the randomness of life. Let
the other characters grow as a result.
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RM:
o
There’s no such thing as the one punch knockout
and simple recovery. Anything that will do enough damage to knock someone out
will be a concussion or worse: dizzy and puking for days, or repeatedly passing
out.
o
If people do pass out, they are people who weren’t
ready to fight, and they just fainted from fear.
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MM:
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Post-traumatic stress can trigger at any point
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BK:
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Societal norms vary within a culture. And
characters live in a culture. They don’t commit violence in a vacuum. They do
it with support or without, etc. In our society, we’re traumatized by death. In
other cultures, they are not.
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Pet peeves: poorly executed or unrealistic
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BK: explosions: there’s not normally flames. There’s
just a shock wave.
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RM: use common sense: if you get shot in the
shoulder, it’s going to hit something. It’s nearly impossible for a bullet to
go through without hitting something.
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AP: Fight scenes that are fairly brutal and no
one seems to get hurt. They should just be laying there and bleeding. Not
getting back up.
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MM: I loved the battle of los angelos. They got
the marines right: they didn’t bunch up. They used cover, etc.
§
You get slugged in the nose, and drove the nose
bone into the brain. There is no nose bone.
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BK: Don’t single source. Use medical source,
trauma sources, military sources. Double check. Read Rory Miller’s books.
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